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Just bf littlie and biggies are after me so no time to add my thoughts till later, but a friend on facebook posted this and all the comments were anti-vegan/veggie kids. My kids are veggie and very healthy so will be adding my comments but wanted some thoughts from you lovelies. Thanks xxx

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20110329/twl-french-vegans-in-dock-over-baby-s-de-c0ca4a9.html

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The death of the baby is very sad. I was vegan for 6 years and I see no problem in a vegan diet as long as you are careful. Sadly sometimes parents are neglectful to their babies and they die. No one says the meat-eater family’s baby died because blah blah but if they are vegan or veggie, it is always mentioned like this!

I read this earlier and my view after reading the whole article was that the baby was exclusively bf and had some kind of infection (bronchitis?) which she then died from, then because they were aware that the baby was exclusively bf still they tested her for vitamin deficiencies and having found her to be deficient in vit a and b12 they are able to blame the parents for her death! i think that is ridiculous but reminds us how when you step out of the mainstream you leave yourselves open to this kind of criticism/scrutiny. They also said that the child was pale and thin and was underweight for her age which also drives me mad as ds3 is very ‘petite’ and according to their stupid charts he is probably below where he should be, yet he is perfectly healthy? how many children are probably deficient in some vitamins?? they dont however routinely check for deficiencies except in this case as they were trying to prove it was the parents fault, i know of plenty of 11 month olds who are fed on mcdonalds and coke and fruit shoots and other crap and very little good stuff and they are likely to be deficient in many vits. On the whole a very sad story :(

Yeah and a child who eats mostly processed convenience foods who dies from an infection doesn’t come under the same scrutiny.  At all.  :(

It is a sad story.  The parents *may* have made a mistake.  But their mistake wasn’t breastfeeding - or veganism - or mistrust of hospitalisation to increase weight gain - or any of the things that are touted as reasons for their deserving this happening.  And what the hell does her age have to do with it?  Notice how that is mentioned right after the fact that she was nursing?  And then followed up with a comment about the deficiencies in her milk.  ACK there is so much wrong with that article.

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wow 12 1/2lb at 11 months is tiny tiny though! They had also ignored doctors advice for the baby to be in hospital. It def sounds like there is a lot more to it than just a vegan diet tbh!

You just cant tell can you with all news reporting there is always more than meets the eye or gets reported. You are right, noone would mention the diet of the child if they were meat eating but 12lb is tiny for an eleven month old. Im sure noone will ever truly know what really was the cause except maybe the parents, but how horrible the death of any child is. My thoughts are with them x

Hmmm going on weight alone, I do think the parents are culpriable (sp?) in this case - but as I say I’m going on the weight of the child alone, and we’ll never know all the facts behind this story.  I guess my issue is how its being presented in the media, and how ignorant (i.e. the true meaning of ignorant, I’m not using it to call names etc), folks will respond.  There are plenty, plenty of healthy veggie and vegan kiddies and probalby more healthy than the many, many kids that are fed unimaginable amounts of crap! 

Very, very sad. :-(

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*Sigh* It makes me so sad how the media sensationalises someone’s tragedy. There are a number of things wrong here, and as pp’s have said, this short yahoo article is def not the whole story. Good that it does point out that their 13 year old doesn’t have vit deficiencies, a nod towards balanced reporting I guess. I don’t know if it makes a difference in the information being presented that French society (I know, gross generalisation, I’m sorry for that, but this is my experience and that of others I know) is not really veggie/vegan friendly. I’m sure there’s so much more to this story than we’ll ever know, but I don’t think that it has anything to do with the family’s veganism. At least, not in isolation from other factors adn issues.

So sad.

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I don’t really get it, if he was only having bm how is veganism relevent to the story?

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Dawnsbrood - 29 March 2011 05:33 PM

I don’t really get it, if he was only having bm how is veganism relevent to the story?

I agree. It is only because media is so misinformed or they want to serve the meat industry or they just put this as a headline because then people will remember veganism is bad!

What a ridiculous reporting of facts!

The vegan-ism had *nothing* to do with the child’s death!  How outrageous!

None of my kids were eating at that age either.  One of my children didn’t have even *one* spoonful or anything until he was 18 months old.

It seems this child was actually *ill* with bronchitis.

This child was obviously tiny though.  Most babies seem to be that weight by two or three weeks old!  I would be terribly anxious if my child were a weight like that by such an age.  I wish they had sought advice…. I still cannot fathom how a bf babe could be so tiny..?

the only breastfed babies I have known were such chunky monsters, except for the mothers (I think I have known two) who seemed to stick to some sort of schedule, or withhold milk without offering an alternative.

sigh.  how sad all round.

Another thing is that this could VERY easily be a story about how rigid scheduling is a danger to breastfed babies…  But we’d never know.  If they DID rigidly schedule feedings, it almost certainly would get no attention whatsoever because medical professionals all “know” that four-hourly feedings for infants, then cutting down to be a maximum of three nursing sessions a day by the time baby is one year old, is normal and healthy and right - right?  There are stories that sound very very much like this widely available online - only substitute “veganism” for “followers of childcare expert Y”.  And even after reading this news article, I’m thinking this could well be a case of the latter rather than the former.  Repeating myself, veganism is SO not the problem.  :(

Sarah
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8yo Jenna (August 04)
6yo Morgan (December 06)
4yo Rowan (April 09)
and toddling baby Talia (December 11)

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Very very sad. Sounds like failure to thrive - whatever the underlying cause it is almost certainly not due to the mothers diet downer

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