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I was talking to a friend today who is a mainstream school teacher but is feeling quite despondent about her position. She’s teaching in a way that goes against her beliefs and values where teaching is concerned.

Anyway, we were talking today about maybe her doing home tutoring but not as an extra to school but as an alternative. So it’s kind of like Home Education - but for people who don’t want to/cant/don’t feel confident enough to do it themselves. So maybe for people who don’t send their children to school but they could send them to her 3 mornings a week (or one or two whole days, or whatever the parent wants really) for her to teach them in a Home Ed based way to suit that individual child.

This is something we were just discussing today and is in no way a “plan”...but I thought it sounded fab.  She could either have small groups of 2 or 3 children or even just one child to give one-to-one attention to, at any one time. It would be very child centred - going with their needs and interests 100% and no mainstream testing etc.

However, it would be in total discussion with the parents and as she is a qualified KS1/2 teacher she could teach in a way that the parent feels is best for their child - so if the parent would prefer her to teach to the National Curriculum then so be it. It would be working alongside the parents rather than separately.  So, if you wanted to HE but also wanted them to cover some National Curriculum subjects but wasn’t confident to do that, my friend could maybe have one day a week with your child to do official subjects while you did the rest of your HE your way.

Does any of this make sense?

If you had the option of this, would you be interested?

What would you prefer? Small group education or one-to-one? Or a bit of both?

Any other ideas/thoughts you think you’d like?

Yes, totally! My understanding is (from HE parents who do it) that it’s possible to cover the NC with one child in 2 hrs a day, leaving the rest free for unstructured stuff. I would quite like to keep Grace up with the NC (minus all the targets etc) but I’m not really looking forward to the work and expense that goes into it - would love someone to teach her the core subjects for a couple of mornings a week and be able to do all the “fun” stuff with her!

Either one-to-one or in a small group wouldn’t bother me.

Couldn’t afford it, but great, great idea!

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Would love this idea, especially if the children were in small groups.  I have often joked if we could afford to pay her salary I’d ask my mum to come up and be “governess” to my boys - she’s a great primary teacher and feeling much the same as your friend.

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I think it is cost dependant.
I would like some help with child care so if it was local and a price I could afford I would conceder it. it also depends how she was registered, would it be as a private teacher ? not sure about insurance in this case.
cost would be a deciding factor and I expect I would only be able to afford and hour or 2 if at all. I am not sure about other home ed groups but many in our group have more than 3 kids. how about contacting the local group and ask if there would be a need.
as an alternative how about some private tuition for kids who may be struggling with reading ect. or an after school science club in the local community centre , now that I would love locally. a group of up to 10 kids in local community centre doing science for an hour or 2 after school hours. if there was 10 kids than that doesn’t have to be expensive per child. may be £4 per child for an hour and a half. just another idea.

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I think there is a call for this type of thing in some areas especially maths / science areas. I would recommend that she contact people in her area and make some suggestions as to what people might want. Around us there are people buying into maths classes, science mornings and both French and Spanish. I wouldnt, at this point, want to buy into this myself- but then I have a science/ maths interst so am quite happy to cover these myself- but that doesn’t mean that I would potentially in the future….

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It seems popular in Kent.

Only today I saw on the lists a teacher (in this case, also a home edding parent), who is offering Film Studies, the number being limited to 8 kids.  Now he’s not doing it to make a living, so the cost is very low.  However I know other parents who have clubbed together to hire a tutor for science, language and literacy lessons.

Whether she could make a living from home tutoring, not sure. 

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Just a thought…

If parents are not going to be present: Under the Childcare Act, anyone looking after children aged under 8, for more than two hours a day before 6pm (or after 2am), for reward, must be registered with Ofsted as a child minder.

I wonder how these other ‘tutor’ services etc cover it… May be parents stay at the sessions and therefore doesn’t count? or maybe they are less than 2 hours? or they do not receive any ‘reward’ for it so maybe just charging for expenses?
But if she is thinking about parents sending children to her for whole days or even several half days a week, for payment, that is child minding really; even if they are being ‘tutored’ while there I think. So would be best to check with Ofsted.

There is a big setup in Hampshire employing tutors in a bigger, more organised way.  Take a look at Etudeo.  I personally am home educating because I want to be delivering the material (of whatever sort) to my children so, for us, it isn’t compatible with our view of what home education is.  However I know lots of people who do like this idea.  The only problem I can see is that many people who have sacrificed one of the parent’s salaries to home educate are not going to have the funds to employ someone else to do the job.

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I think its a great idea. I have a friend locally who would love to have someone like this. smile

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Personally I would not be interested in this.  We have gone down the route of autonomous home ed and my eldest is very anti any structure at all in relation to learning (tried it for a couple of days but it was bad news for both of us!) at the moment.  Cost would also be a factor for us, as has already been mentioned here we have given up a salary to home ed and would not have enough funds to pay some else to do this for us!

Having said that all families find a way of home educating that works for them, and many families do opt for a more structured route so there may be enough families out there who would be intersted and able to pay for this kind of education

To be completely honest,I’d be very unlikely to use it, because, like most home educators, we’re on a single income and I’m just not going to pay someone else to do something I can do myself-I do pay a criminal amount for music lessons, but only because I genuinely cannot teach trumpet and piano myself (the music I can teach my kids myself, eg recorder, I do). If I were feeling underconfident in certain areas, i’d be more likely to see if another HEing family wanted to arrange a semi-formal swop, or tbh take a course or read a book or two so I could do it myself. I’m also not that sure that there are that many HErs out there who believe they cannot teach a primary age child basic skills like maths and science and English. I think the problem could be that, for an awful lot of HErs, frugality and DIYing in education are just ways of life. We are structured, we spend 3- 4 mornings a week on “work” but I really would not spend my money on lessons for my kids that I could easily do myself. I just don’t need childcare that much (and to be perfectly honest, there is always the IKEA creche for very bad mornings wink )

Legally, if she were teaching kids in small groups, I don’t think she’d have to register or anything. I know for a fact that my daughter’s piano teacher, who not only teaches her for piano but also for a HErs choir, was not even CRB checked until quite recently, and she basically spends a day a week offering piano lessons to HE’d kids, parents don’t stay or anything. IIRC the issue is with kind of general childcare, if you are tutoring something specific its not covered by the children’s act. I know that doesn’t make much sense, but I had to look into this in a lot of depth around a year ago and I’m pretty sure its accurate. Also no limit on numbers iirc aside from what is sensible-private tutoring isn’t covered by the ratios set out by the chidlren’s act.

Good luck to her. I’d recommend researching the local area and maybe starting out as a private tutor, making clear on any adverts that she was open to teaching home educated kids during the daytime. My instinct is that this is unlikely to become a major source of income, however-there jsut are not that many HErs out there, and most of us are either skint, or at the least will not spend our money on something we can easily do ourselves. I honestly cannot get my head around the idea of paying someone else to teach my kids to read and do maths, but then I can’t really get my head round the idea of paying for a cleaner either.

Oh yeah, I should say I’ve only seen HE’er use tutors for secondary level aged children, not primary.

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wonder if a better bet for her might be to try to hook up with some people trying to get a small school off the ground, or herself approach it as a small school?

I know some HE’ers in England who use a similar service.  It supplements, not replaces what is done at home.  The families I know use it because they hae larger than average families and it takes the pressure off at times of sickness, new baby etc.  The tutors only charge £3 per hour, so I don’t imagine it is their sole income (they are husband and wife).  I would use something like this loosely, perhaps a couple of hours a week to cover the more structured stuff so that we can have more time together having fun grin

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I know this is an old one but, if she Ofted registered as a childminder but offered her services to home ed families it would have been something that would have been very helpful for me.  I would have been able to work while DS was in this kind of setting say two days a week, I’d get tax credits to cover most of those costs and it would just have made home ed a lot more feasible for us as a family (single parent, useless father, no family around.)  I think this kind of thing would be great for families like mine who want to home ed but can’t afford to stay home full time.

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I am so glad that there are other teachers who feel the same as me.
I was a Primary teacher who could no longer justify taking a salary from a system that hurt so many children. I realised I could not change the system enough to keep doing it.
I am now a private primary tutor. I scrape by being employed by parents of schooled children after school and Saturdays. I specialise in helping children gain confidence and understanding in maths by giving them the hands on experience that the national curriculum leaves no time for. I also help children with reading and writing using a more comprehensive phonics program than any UK school uses, And the I help children on the spectrum access their right brain to help with language understanding and creativity.

I always encourage parents to home educate and have had some success with a few families who have taken the plunge. I have helped some by tutoring a few hours a week until they feel confident to do it themselves or their circumstances change to enable them to do so, or they find a good alternative school. I often get paid by supportive grandparents.
I have found that it takes some time on the HE path before a parent has the courage to take the autonomous education route. Sometimes the child just insists on it because being freed from the confines of school, they rebel against having ‘lessons at home’. As Montessori said, children have their own individual ‘inner teacher’ who directs them in their learning when given the opportunity and resources.

I have a dream to have an alternative (free) school in every town so all children and parents have a choice.

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