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We need to do a big overhaul on dd’s diet. She goes out on her own often now and will come in saying she bought herself xyz or someone shared their sweets etc and she has HUGE food triggers for her behaviour. You could watch her and think she has bad ADHD sometimes and it’s getting worse and I am pretty sure it’s her diet right now. As some of you know I’ve suspected aspergers/adhd for a long time but she ONLY shows any traits here at home so she would never get a diagnosis. Due her diet being so terrible I am certain if we sorted it out her behaviour would improve drastically.

We used to let them have one treat a day. A treat would be 2 biscuits or one home made fairy cake or maybe a packet of crisps. Just one a day at the most (not normally the crisps - normally one of the first two) but somehow we’ve got into the habit of her having all of those in one day!! Not sure how it happened to be honest but now she does, she eats very little else!!

She also eats far too many carbs - white flour carbs. She eats cream crackers and white bread til it comes out of her ears!! They’re her staple. She’ll have crackers and butter for breakfast and often a slice of toast too. She’ll normally have an apple when she leaves for school and eats it on the way. Her lunch box is awful these days - having mini cheddars and a cake bar or fairy cake if I’ve been organised, as well as her white bread sandwich (normally just bread and butter), and two or three lots of fruit. Then she normally has a club at school where they give them digestive biscuits (normally 2). Then her dinner can be white spaghetti and tomato/veg sauce,  or chicken nuggets, mash and sweetcorn, jacket potato with beans and cheese, chicken, roast potatoes and sweetcorn, home made pizza, chicken breast, new potatoes and sweetcorn. I think that is pretty much the extent of her dinners.

So, firstly, do I need to cut down on her crackers and bread? She won’t eat wholemeal or even homemade white bread.

Also, can anyone give me any healthy ideas to swap her mini cheddars for? She does sometimes have plain breadsticks with primula which I doubt is much better as that primula tastes really salty. How about dairylea? Is that any better than primula? She won’t eat the breadsticks on their own and she doesnt’ eat cream cheese.

I can swap the fairy cake for a shredded wheat cake which I make with100g 85% dark chocolate, a table spoon of honey and 2 shredded wheat. That makes 12 cakes and she’d only have one a day. Thats got to be better than a cake bar or fairy cake.

Any other swaps I can make so she still gets her treats/puddings without all the junk? I’m really struggling here. Obviously with her going out on her own etc she’s going to eat rubbish sometimes but if we can swap as much as we can at home then its got to help hasn’t it? It’s so hard because she won’t eat most things and she’s pretty skinny as it is!

Someone help!! Please!! x x x x

Here are some ideas for upping the ante on the main meals:

Swap spaghetti for a more nutritional grain such as quinoa or millet. Or switch to wholemeal pasta to reduce the rate it goes into her bloodstream.
Add more veg to the tom sauce and some kind of protein to fill her up - minced chicken or beef? Or hide the quinoa in the tom sauce

CHicken nuggets - make your own, add one more veg to the meal

JP with beans and cheese sounds good. Swap beans for sugar free ones like whole earth is poss and make sure the cheddar is organic Will she eat coleslaw or salad?

Chicken and roasties is good - add another veg

Home made pizza - cool. Served with salad?

CHicken and new potatoes - good, once again, add another veg.

If she’ll eat tomato / veg sauce - just give her that with everything as the ‘other veg’...

If she won’t eat wholemeal or homemade white bread then I don’t see how you can cut them down. Unless you try oatcakes / rice cakes etc - maybe ryvita with the seeds in them.

She;s eating plenty of fruit if she eats what’s in her lunch box, it’s the veg you need to focus on, especially green leafy stuff - could you put spinach in the tomato sauce or dry kale chips for her? Will she eat cauliflower and broccoli cheese? Or even make it then whizz into soup.

I’m expecting you’ll come back to all of these suggestions with a no, in which case, let her do what she wants to do and make sure it’s not a power struggle or battleground for you both.

Ask her if she WANTS to change or whether it’s you that wants this change…

My sense is it’s probably a power thing for her; an area in her life where she feels some sense of control so she’ll be reluctant to let it go…

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primula - how about organic greek yogurt strained with herbs to make your own ‘boursin’ type cheese? She could have that with plain breadsticks or crudites instead of the mini cheddars or you could make cheese straws…

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Hi why not get her to help make bread, into rolls, then gradually alter the white/wholemeal flour ratio, it dosnt have to be full wholemeal as that can be quite heavy, pasta, cold in a tub in her lunch, with some hidden veg.make the fairy cakes more of a muffin, a mulitude of goodies can be mashed and added here.instead of cheddars, home made cheese straws,fruit smoothies, lollies, granita, freeze mushed fruit, every 2 hours scratch the surface up with a fork, repeat till it al looks like fruity ice granuals.involve her, have fun, experiment, be as sneaky as the kids at hiding food, have fun x

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Have you seen the Sainsburys high fibre “white” pasta? - they have added fibre but kept it looking white, which has proved handy with my fussy eater - apparently it has 3 times the fibre of white pasta - I checked and they do have spaghetti as well as other shapes

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Banana muffins are another good swap for cakes that I make for healthier puddings sometimes

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Hello Skye-Blu!

I have recently been drastically reducing sugar for my boys, including fruit sugars. Interestingly I have seen them crave more white flour products eg crumpets and bagels. Also interestingly, it has not take too long for tastes to change and them stop craving sweet stuff or white flour stuff. (I know this is harder for an older child though).

One suggestion for a new snack is corn cakes which I found online, like rice cakes but tastier. I spread with peanut butter and call them peanut butter biscuits.

Sara x

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Thank you all for your replies! I will certainly try some of your suggestions. My daughter is very very sensitive to tastes so she will always know if I’ve sneaked something into a recipe. Even down to “have you put extra carrot in this tomato sauce?” so no chance of managing that one. But I can introduce something totally knew as she is good now at trying new things (rarely does she actually LIKE them but she does try them). She does eat wholemeal spaghetti actually. I stopped buying it due to budgetting but I think I’ll have to factor that one in again. I know its not the most expensive thing on the list but it is £1 a pack rather than the 27p or whatever it is I pay for white spaghetti normally.

I know she wouldn’t have tomato sauce with anything other than spaghetti although I do manage to get a bit of veg into the passatta when I do home made pizza. Can’t get any other toppings on other than cheese though.

I could try savoury muffins but I’d have to call it something else as she watches too much Miranda and its a bit of a standing joke about “savoury muffins”! Ha ha!! So i’d call it bread of some sort!! Ha ha! Oh dear!

Sara, that’s good about your boys craving for sweet stuff less now. I can’t reduce the fruit right now as she eats so little veg!  I’ll have a look into those corn cakes. She REALLY doesn’t like rice cakes though (even the heavily flavoured snack a jacks) so unless they look and taste very different I’m not sure how that will go down.

Am planning to write down some of the ideas in this thread though and work my way through them!
Thanks again!!! x

Snack idea - home made popcorn? Think it will keep in an airtight container and satisfy that urge for crunch?
X

Does she have much dairy? Milk, cheese? We use these for snacks- glass of milk (or chocolate milk), lump of cheese or baby bel, etc. I’ve been meaning to try this recipe for healthy biscuits too to try and entice mine away from the biscuit barrel http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/recipes/breakfast-cookies
Would she eat more exciting things on a pizza if she got to put the toppings on herself before it’s cooked- like a toppings buffet? And does she like peanut butter? Or toasted sunflower seeds- yummy ways to have more protein. Have you ever tried putting veg in cakes- beet root, courgette, etc. courgette especially can’t really be tasted in them. Can add a recipe if you’re interested smile

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She only has pop corn with sugar on it. She does eat cheddar cheese but no other cheeses. She’s tried but doesn’t like nuts or seeds. I’ll try the courgette in cakes but it will mean chocolate cake because i assume you’d see speckles otherwise. Trying to stop cakes completely because of the sugar content so if you’ve got a sugar free cake recipe that would be wonderful! X

I use whole grain rice cakes to replaces crackers: http://www.ocado.com/webshop/product/Kallo-Organic-Thick-Slightly-Salted-Rice-Cakes/13072011?gclid=CMOL7oHvg78CFQf4wgodgpkA5Q

I only let my youngest have wheat once a day as I’m sure it was affecting her behaviour when she used to eat a lot more. Since cutting it right back her tantrums have all but disappeared. I believe she used to suffer from ‘wheat rage’. If you google it, lots of information will come up about it.

Edited to add: just seen you said she doesn’t like rice cakes. Have you tried her on oat cakes? Both of my DD’s like those too.

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starchild - 17 June 2014 10:35 AM

primula - how about organic greek yogurt strained with herbs to make your own ‘boursin’ type cheese? She could have that with plain breadsticks or crudites instead of the mini cheddars or you could make cheese straws…

My children love. homemade cheese straws. The recipe I use is from the Be-Ro cookery book. I like to buy Sosmix and put it inside puff pastry and make ‘sausage rolls’.

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Skye-Blu - 18 June 2014 03:36 PM

She only has pop corn with sugar on it. She does eat cheddar cheese but no other cheeses. She’s tried but doesn’t like nuts or seeds. I’ll try the courgette in cakes but it will mean chocolate cake because i assume you’d see speckles otherwise. Trying to stop cakes completely because of the sugar content so if you’ve got a sugar free cake recipe that would be wonderful! X

Not sugar free I’m afraid, although I do always reduce sugar in cakes by up to half as I find they tend to have too much in them, and in the following recipe definitely can reduce sugar as you use elderflower cordial too. I peel my courgette first and super fine grate them so no specks at all. I know it’s probably not going to be what you’re after but just in case its any help heres a link to a blog that has the recipe (I can’t find my book with it - have a funny feeling I over de-cluttered on one of my more vigorous days!) I know you might not want to use ground almonds but I’m sure they can be replaced with other flour like things.
http://gillsopenyoga.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/raspberry-and-elderflower-cupcakes.html

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