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What milk does everyone use and why?
Also was there someone on here who has studied nutrition, sure I read somebody had somewhere but cant find the post!
I find the thought of drinking milk designed for a totally different species quite bizarre and would like to change, my main concern is what the children could have in place of cow juice, I worry they wont get everything they need, my son is 2 and a half and my daughter is 10mths and has just been weaned from the breast onto formula…I know that breast milk would obviously have been best for her but due to suffering from depression I made the very difficult decision to 'put her on the bottle'-dont you just love that expression!
Any advice much appreciated!

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We use Rice milk - specifically Rice Dream (have tried other brands which are not very nice and have alot of sediment in them) we get the non-organic one as its the only one enriched with calcium. Have tried oat milk and soya milk etc along the way but settled on rice milk as we all like it - the only trouble is its so expensive. Obviously this would only be ok for your older child, i dont know much about alternatives for baby, ours were both fed on soya formula after a few months of bfing due to lactose intolerance and i wouldnt really recommend it, due to tooth decay problems with my youngest probably from the soya formula. I know what you mean about cows milk (i also refer to it as cow juice!) cant stand the stuff or the idea of it, once you start thinking about it seems so gross!

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My oldest was breastfed until 20 months and since then very occasionally drinks cow's milk but doesn't really like it. She does have yoghurt and cheese though. My youngest is still breastfed at 2.5 years but also likes cow's milk and asks for it regularly, he also eats cheese and sometimes yoghurt. We only have organic dairy, semi-skimmed milk and usually soya yoghurts. I hate milk myself and won't touch it though i do like cheese. My husband likes milk and milk puddings especially. So we're a bit of a mixed bag really. We have tried soya milk and rice milk but no-one likes either in our house. Plus I do worry about how 'processed' some soya items can be. It is a tricky one though.

Liz grin x

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I think the whole milk thing is a total con.
We think we can't possibly be healthy or get all the nutrition we need without it - it's a complete conspiracy in my very outspoken opinion  ;D

There is an article here which explains things and gives lots of alternatives for where to find that precious calcium:
http://houseofstrauss.co.uk/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=478

And, to answer your question we use all sorts of milk but we always have soya, rice, quinoa and almond in the house.

Is your daughter eating solid food now? How much of her diet is from milk alone?
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Whoops, going to be the square peg here and say that I love milk.  We generally buy organic nowadays, and always British, but I would really miss going without it.  Milk on my porridge, hot milk and honey, cream on my strawberries (and on Frosties when I'm in need of comfort food!).  I don't think of it as a nutritional 'must have' and I'm sure you can get calcium in other ways, I just like it and yes, it's a product designed for baby cows, but then honey is a product designed to feed baby bees!

I have tried soya milk as I have a close friend who is vegan, but I didn't like it at all, I guess it's what you're used to.   smile

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honey is a product designed to feed baby bees!

It is??  :o Can you elaborate on that - I've never heard that before.
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There are loads of other sources of calcium that are much better than cows milk.  Sesame seeds for example. I like tahini (sesame seed paste) on toast and it's in houmous too which is a favourite of my 17 month old at the minute. I've never eaten that much dairy in my life (allergic to it as a child) and I've managed to survive smile

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It is??  :o Can you elaborate on that - I've never heard that before.
Starchild x

The eggs as far as I've learnt, are laid in the chambers (if they are allowed to be - the queen guard prevents this in the upper combs that are harvested) and the honey and egg are sealed, so when the bee hatches, it has something to eat.  Also, bees need to have some honey in their hive to last them over Winter which is why if beekeepers harvest all the honey, they should provide a sugar syrup for the bees to eat instead.  In a natural hive that isn't farmed by man, honey is produced as a food substance for the young lavae and to sustain the bees when all the flowers are over.  In a natural hive, most of the comb chambers would contain an egg and then a grub, which would obviously not be great for honey-making, which is why the queen-guard prevents the queen from laying in all but a few chambers which aren't harvested.  That's what I've learnt anyway!   smile  Amazing what you learn from reading Country Smallholder Magazine!

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Is anyone suggesting that milk is essential to your health then?  What about people with a dairy allergy, they seem to manage without it ok and you're right, it can't be a natural food for humans to eat, it wasn't put there for humans was it.  Like I said, I drink it because I like the flavour and recently, with bad morning sickness, it's been the only 'food' I could think about having or keep down when everything else failed.

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Is anyone suggesting that milk is essential to your health then? 

The government and milk marketing board, yes  ;D

Thanks for the honey info and I'm glad you've found something that settles your stomach with the morning sickness  smile

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I didn't know that.  The milk marketing board obviously have an interest in promoting milk, but didn't know the Government were too.  You'd think they had enough problems on their plate without telling people what they should be drinking!!  Better funding for school meals for example, better treatment of pensioners, oh and let's allow pubs to open 24 hours and then tell people they should be drinking milk!!   >:(

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I love country smallholding magazine as well ;D.  Yes we love milk in our house too.  Organic semi-skimmed. 

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If you discussed your concerns about his behaviour with the class teacher maybe they would allow him to take milk instead of water. 

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Ooh, I still remember getting milk at school too  ;D - it came in a mini milk bottle with a straw.  Fantastic.  Today they get mini cartons of milk :(

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Ooh yuck, don't remind me! I used to be kept in all playtime because I wouldn't drink mine. I hated the stuff and always have. In the end my mum had to write a note to get me out of it because it was getting ridiculous!

Liz grin x

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Thank you lovely ladies! Well I think after reading all your responses I will be keeping both the children on cow juice, and I know my better half wont consider changing his milk either! I however will probably change mine, I do like both soya and rice milk, am yet to try anything else!
I wonder if anyone knows which milk is the most eco-friendly?! I found queenies comment about the milk float interesting…I didnt know they still had milk floats around! I usually but my milk from the supermarket(shock!horror!)
Why is it when you start thinking about these things theres so much to take into consideration…transportation,packaging, human rights, animal rights..it is all so confusing! There never seems to be a straight forward answer!

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